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Helmuth Rilling

Bach Cantatas & Other Vocal Works

General Discussions - Part 2

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Helmuth Rilling's US Schedule

Janos Gereben wrote (January 31, 2001):
Minneapolis, Orchestra Hall, Arthur Honegger, Jeanne d'Arc au bucher
March, 15, 16 and 17, 7.30 p.m.
Viviana Aliberti (Jeanne d'Arc), Ors Kisfaludy (Frere Dominique), Camilla
Nylund (Soprano), Michelle Breedt, Mezzo soprano. Minnesota Chorale and Minnesota Symphony Orchestra, Helmuth Rilling guest conductor

Valparaiso, University, J.S. Bach, St. Matthew Passion (BWV 244)
March, 25, 7.30 p.m.
Vocal soloists, Choir and Orchestra Universitiy of Valparaiso, Helmuth Rilling guest conductor

San Francisco, Symphony Hall, J. Haydn, Die Schopfung
April, 13 and 14, 7.30 p.m.
Juliane Banse (Soprano), Marcus Ullmann (Tenor), Andreas Schmidt (Bass), Choir and San Francisco Symphony Orchestra, Helmuth Rilling guest conductor

Oregon Bach Festival, Eugene, Oregon June 22, 2000 - July 8 2000


Rilling’s Musical Omnivorousity

Janos Gereben wrote (June 23, 2001):

EUGENE - Watching Helmuth Rilling at a rehearsal tonight in Hult Center as he was conducting Pietro Platania's "Sanctus" *without a score*, I was shaking my head in disbelief, as I often do when encountering this remarkable man at work.

Beginning with a complete set of performances and recordings of all Bach's known works, running major festivals on three continents, commissioning major new works (including a complete set of new Passions), conducting major portions of the Brahms, Dvorak, Mendelssohn, Haydn and Mozart repertory, Rilling is now opening the 23rd Oregon Bach Festival with the music of Platania (1828-1897).

Add to that Antonio Buzzolla (1815-1871), Antonio Bazzini (1818-1897), Carlo Pedrotti (1817-1893), Antonio Cagnoni (1828-1893), Frederico Ricci (1809-1877), Alessandro Nini (1808-1880), Raimondo Boucheron (1800-1876), Carlo Coccia (1782-1873), Gaetano Gaspari (1808-1881), Lauro Rossi (1812-1885), Teodulo Mabellini (1817-1897), and, yes, Giuseppe Verdi (1813-1901).

This, of course, is the "Messa per Rossini," the product of a Verdi-led coalition of then-famous (now unknown) Italian composers paying tribute to Rossini who died in 1868. "Messa" was completed the next year, and then disappeared, without a performance, for more than a century. It was Rilling who dusted off the work and gave its world premiere in Stuttgart, in 1988. The American premiere followed a year later, in New York.

There are two, contradictory, first impressions of "Messa" - are these unknowns the best composers who could be commissioned in a golden age of music in Italy, and why did the pretty good, very large work they managed to put together hide in obscurity, for a Bach specialist to discover and rescue it? I doubt if there are any answers available to this musical riddle.

Another Rilling specialty is his support of young singers. Thomas Quasthoff was only one among those he championed successfully. "Messa" is a good example of Rilling's large-scale introduction of new and newish voices. The soloists are soprano Amanda Mace (a very promising young singer from New Jersey), alto Susan Platts, Dutch tenor Albert Bonnema, Armenian baritone Mkritch Babajanyan, and a very young, impressive bass from Moscow, Michail Schelomianski, making his US debut. What Kurt Herbert Adler used to do in San Francisco, Rilling is doing - on a small scale, but effectively - in the middle of agricultural Oregon.

Platts, at 28, is already a veteran of the Rilling stable. The Canadian mezzo - with a well-centered, powerfully projected voice - made her US debut here three years ago, and sang the B Minor Mass in Houston with Rilling, Christoph Eschenbach in the audience. This fall, Platts – who is still reluctant to switch from oratorio to opera - will move in that direction as she is featured at the season-opening concert of Eschenbach's Orchestra de Paris, in Debussy's "The Martyrdom of St. Sebastian" and Act 3 of "Parsifal." To this fan who's been urging her to sing opera, Platts points out that if she really did that, she would do Act 2, but this way she can do opera and "get away with two lines."

The Paris cast will also feature Dominique Labelle, Nadine Denize, John Keyes, Dietrich Henschel, Kristinn Sigmundsson, and Isabelle Huppert as narrator.


Rilling Grows a Fine Crop of Voices in a Small Place


Janos Gereben wrote (June 23, 2001):
At this year's Oregon Bach Festival, there is the usual contingent of promising young singers, making their entrance - a debut here, first US appearance there, a soloist early in a career, etc., all found and cultivated by festival artistic director Helmuth Rilling.

Another champion of young voices I knew, Kurt Herbert Adler, had the San Francisco Opera as his venue for discovery, with annual seasons of 3-4 months, and a hefty budget (thrifty as Adler was). Rilling has to manage with a two-week period each year, and a fraction of what an opera company can pay.

Sampling offerings during the first week of the festival, I started compiling some of the recognizable names in the category of It Began in Oregon, including the year of first appearance there. Turned out to be quite a list, even while obviously incomplete.

Alan Kays '82
Arleen Auger '78
Ben Heppner '88
Carl Halvorson '90
Christine Schafer '91
Cornelia Kallisch '90
David Gordon '84
Donna Brown '91
Dorothy Bergquist '73
Douglas Lawrence '74
Elisabeth Graf '83
Gary Lakes '92
Gloria Cutsforth '74
Ingeborg Danz '91
James Taylor '95
Jan Opalach '84
Jennifer Lane '89
Judith Malafronte '84
Julia Hamari '83
Kaaren Erickson, soprano '91
Kevin McMillan '90
Leslie Breidenthal '75
Louis Lebherz '88
Maria Jette '89
Michael Schade '91
Pamela Coburn '89
Phyllis Bryn-Julson '90
Rod Gilfry '82
Sarah Walker '86
Scott Weir '86
Susan Platts '98
Sylvia McNair '87
Thomas Quasthoff '95
Thomas Randle '87
William Parker '85

And, here are some names this year (from the first week only) which may one day join the list above:

* Most promising was the West Coast debut of Russian bass Michail Schelomianski. He is around 30, with a velvety, unforced voice, an appealingly simple manner of presentation. His German and Latin diction is obviously in need of improvement.

* Soprano Amanda Mace, 24, a vital, operatic presence already (and intonation problems I forgot to mention in the excitement generated by her first professional concert appearance).

* Soprano Letizia Scherrer, a similarly intense, well-focused singer, with a striking voice.

* Tenor Christopher Cock, easily noticeable but difficult to evaluate in the all-too-short "Magnificat" assignment.

* Baritone Mkrtich Babajanyan, similar to the Russian bass in the quality of voice and simplicity of presentation.

* Dutch tenor Albert Bonnema had obvious problems in the "Messa per Rossini," but there could be a good voice there, if he only allowed it to emerge, instead of forcing it out.

Of course, as anyone familiar with the festival in Eugene knows, there are two dozen great voices there at all times, right in the middle of the Festival Chorus, a small body of extraordinary singers. One former chorus member, Anne Nonnemacher, is now at the Met - still in the chorus, but who knows where the road, begun in Eugene, leads?


The Complete Works of Johann Sebastian Bach on 172 CD / Reduced Prize! / Rilling Cantatas

Simon Vischer wrote (August 14, 2001):
- I work with CD's and I happen to take hand on a couple of "The Complete Works of Johann Sebastian Bach on 172 CDs" from Hänssler Verlag in Germany. You'll find a link to their web site:
http://www.haenssler.de/home/classic_e/welcome.phtml

It is a remainder of a distributor in France and it is completely _new_!

Hänssler CLASSIC is the only record company to release the complete works of Johann Sebastian Bach on exactly 172 CDs. EDITION BACHAKADEMIE features some of the world's leading artists under the artistic leadership of Helmuth Rilling, the acknowledged Bach authority. Tis an edition which includes all of Bach's playable compositions. The new prize of the "Complete Works.." is DEM 2,599.00 / $1,200.00 / Euro 1,349.00

+++++ I will give it for about $ 950.00! I think that is a fair prize. +++++

- Then I have also some new Johann Sebastian Bach "The Complete Cantatas - 200 Cantatas on 69 CDs" left. Rilling's famous complete church cantatas (he is the only conductor so far who has recorded all of Bach's sacred cantatas) in recordings featuring Arleen Augér, Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau, Peter Schreier and many others.
New prize is about DEM 1,799.00 / $ 830.00

+++ I will give it for about $ 500.00 +++

Sometimes I also buy and sell with eBay so you may check my feedback:
http://cgi2.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=ak28

If you are interested or just want some more details or a picture please mail me privately:

Kirk McElhearn wrote (August 14, 2001):
[To Simon Vischer] In France, the going price is about that. See:
http://www.fnac.com/Shelf/article.asp?PRID=1136745&SubjectId=%2D13&SID=3E380E25%2D625C%2DBC5A%2D192C%2DF3A3AB5F85E6&UID=bb28b300%2Ddd77%2Dff2c%2Dc169%2D59b2b5ebba46&AID=&Origin=FnacAff&Pe=4&No=2&Fr=0&Mn=4&Ra=-29&To=0

Zev Bechler wrote (August 14, 2001):
I am looking for a reasonably priced set of the complete scores of Bach's cantats. Anybody wants to kick his habit??

Simon Vischer wrote (August 13, 2001):
ok.. thanks Kirk; I didn't know that fnac.com sells it that cheap.

So I will change the prize for the 172 CDs "The Complete Works.." to ......... $799.00
and the prize for the 69 CDs "Complete Cantatas" to .................................... $499.00

- "The Complete Works of Johann Sebastian Bach on 172 CDs"
Hänssler CLASSIC is the only record company to release the complete works of Johann Sebastian Bach on exactly 172 CDs. EDITION BACHAKADEMIE features some of the world's leading artists under the artistic leadership of Helmuth Rilling, the acknowledged Bach authority. This is an edition which includes all of Bach's playable compositions.

- "Johann Sebastian Bach - The Complete Cantatas - 200 Cantatas on 69 CDs"
Rilling's famous complete church cantatas (he is the only conductor so far who has recorded all of Bach's sacred cantatas) in recordings featuring Arleen Augér, Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau, Peter Schreier and many others.
New prize is about DEM 1,799.00 / $ 830.00

John Thomas wrote (August 14, 2001):
[To Simon Vischer] These 69 Cantata CDs are going for $2.99 each at Berkshire Record Outlet, or 206.31 total. Berkshire's domestic (US) shipping charge would be $11.80.

Michael Butera wrote (August 14, 2001):
Kirk mentioned that Mr. Vischer's price for the Rilling recordings is not really a bargain. For those in the US, the Rilling cantata set can be obtained at a very cheap price from Berkshire Record Outlet (http://www.broinc.com/), who currently has all 68 cantata CDs at only $2.99 per disc. (Searching BRO, I could not find the 69th disc
which I believe contains BWV 30a, 36c, 36b, 134a, & 173a. Perhaps those who already have this set can verify that these cantatas are on this last disc. I got the probable contents of this last volume from the Cantatas site at:
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Performers/Rilling.htm

Thus, one could buy all 68 discs (at $2.99 per unit) for $203.32. Domestic shipping is $5 for the first disc and $.10 for every disc thereafter, making the shipping only $11.70 for the whole set. The total price would be $215.02, quite a bit less than Mr. Vischer's $830 (now $499) and the French website's $430.33.

I just thought I would post this as a suggestion for those contemplating a purchase of the Rilling set. It should be noted that for those outside the US, BRO charges a much higher shipping rate. Of course, I have no relationship with or financial interest in BRO. I am, however, a very satisfied customer.

Charles Francis wrote (August 14, 2001):
[To John Thomas] A modest price to pay for the best, most musical, complete cantata set available today!

Simon Vischer wrote (August 14, 2001):
[To Michael Butera] My intention never was to make big money with this. I didn't know that one company sells their Cantata-Set for $203.00. That's a prize I can't give cause I paid more to get them.

Since Kirk told me that Fnac.com sells their 172-CDs-Set ("The Complete Works..") for $982.00 I actually reduce my prize to $799.00. I guess no one knows a shop where you can buy this for that prize (if yes, please tell me). I'd like to give those who like the oportunity to buy this great set for a good prize. And I guess $799.00 is a good one. (Actually I paid more when it came out..)

So sorry to everyone who feels angry about that; that wasn't my intention.

Michael Butera wrote (August 15, 2001):
< Simon Vischer wrote: My intention never was to make big money with this. >

I should appologize to Simon. My thought was never to "undercut" his price or make him look like he was out to make money. Taking into consideration the base price for the set, I actually think his price is more than fair.

I had ordered the cantatas from BRO last week and I meant to write a post about their super-low price here at that time. However, I forgot and Simon's post refreshed my memory. Rather than responding to his post, however, I probably should have made a separate and unrelated post of my own maybe a few days after he had mentioned that
he had a set for sale. The way I handled the situation made it look as if I was trying to show that Simon was overcharging people. In my opninion, he is not, and I did not mean to say or imply that.

For those overseas (i.e., not in the US), Simon's price actually propabably works out cheaper because of the steep shipping rates. My intention was only to inform US list readers about Berkshire's sale. I'm sorry if my post made it seem if I was casting dispersions on Simon. If it did, I appologize.

John Thomas wrote (August 15, 2001):
[To Charles Francis] Just so everyone understands that these are not from the current cycle, but are remastered recordings of Rilling's earlier cycle. Some of the more recent recordings, however, are beginning to show up at BRO in reduced pricing as well.

Charles Francis wrote (August 15, 2001):
[To John Thomas] Yes, I have the "earlier cycle" as you call it, whose drawback is the random assignment of BWV's to CDs. But apart from reordering and repackaging is there any other difference in the later issue?

John Thomas wrote (August 15, 2001):
[To Charles Francis] I have no idea. I had a few of these on LP in the 1960’s when they were first issued, but didn't much care for them then and am not interested in buying them now when newer performances I've heard are more lively and interesting. I've thought of sampling Rilling's (also un-HIP) 1990’s cycle, but have not done so yet. Please don't take this as an attack on those who like them; to each his own tastes!

Donald Satz wrote (August 15, 2001):
[To John Thomas] I bought a few of the Rilling/Hänssler Cantata discs and have been pleasantly surprised. Rilling is tasteful, historically aware, and has quite a knack of picking fine vocal soloists. What most surprised me is how enjoyable I find the instruments to be. They don't appeal as much as period instruments, but they're highly effective.

John Thomas wrote (August 15, 2001):
[To Donald Satz] Which set?

Donald Satz wrote (August 15, 2001):
[To John Thomas] I have Rilling's secular cantata discs from the 1990's.

Aryeh Oron wrote (August 15, 2001):
[To Michael Butera] The first CD edition of Rillings Bach cantata cycle was printed on 69 CD's. It includes (almost all) the church cantatas, and also BWV 249 (Weihnachts-Oratorium). This is the 69-CD set available from Berkshire at reduced price. The lisof each of the 69 CD's appear in the Bach Cantatas Website in the page:
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Performers/Rilling-Rec2.htm
under the-subtitle 'Complete Cantatas Cycle on Hänssler – 1st Edition on CD'. The first 3 volumes in this edition are BWV 248.

The second edition was printed in the late 1990's on 60 CD's, arranged by BWV number. They are Vol.1-60 of the Bach-Akademie edition. These are actually the same recordings which appeared in the first edition, with some replacements of individual movements. The full listing of each volume in this edition appears in the same page under the sub-title 'Complete Cantatas Cycle on Hänssler – 2nd Edition on CD - Edition Bachakademie'. Vol.61-68 of this edition include the secular cantatas in new (and fine) recordings. Their contents is listed in the same page under the sub-title 'Later Recordings - Secular Cantatas'. BWV 248 has also new recording and it is Vol. 76 in this edition. See the page:
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Performers/Rilling-Rec7.htm
The last two volumes of this edition (Vols. 139 & 140) include rarely recorded cantatas, which are actually revisions of other cantatas, also in new recordings. Vol. 139 includes: BWV 30a, BWV 36c, BWV 36b, BWV 134a, BWV 173a. Vol. 140 includes: Magnificat in Es BWV 243a, Credo aus BWV 232II, BWV 34a, BWV 69a, BWV 120a, BWV 197a.

So if you like Rilling's approach to the Bach Cantatas (I do) and you want them all, you can buy either the first edition (69-CD's) or the second edition (60-CD's), and complete it with volumes 61-68, 139 & 140 of the new edition.

I hope this clarifies everything.

Enjoy and you are invited to contribute to the weekly cantata discussions,

John Thomas wrote (August 15, 2001):
[To Michael Butera] Are you saying, then, that you should have allowed list members who thought Simon's prices were the best available to go ahead and order from him and then, a few days later, offered the news that the set was available in the US for half his price? Strange ethics. On the BachRecordings list I immediately let the members know about the Berkshire prices. Are our loyalties to our fellow list-members, or to whatever businessman drops in to sell us his wares? Neither you nor I were implying that Simon was trying to overcharge us; he was offering what he had at a price based on his costs. However, as a capitalist he must believe in a free market economy and know that its philosophy implies that there will be few winners and many losers. In this case, he loses. Had you and I remained silent he would have won and Berkshire, which had worked hard to be able to offer the lower prices, would have lost. And so would we.

Michael Butera wrote (August 15, 2001):
[To John Thomas] Well now Mr. Thomas says I have a "strange" system of ethics. I regret this since my original post was merely to inform list members of a low priced set of CDs and my second post was merely to clear up my intentions and apologize if I was unclear regarding my positions on Mr. Vischer's price. If feeling bad for possibly mis-speaking and then trying to fix those possible misperceptions makes someone else say I have a "strange" sense of ethics makes me wonder why I bothered posting in the first place. I generally "lurk" on the list and rarely post anything largely for two reasons: first, I rarely have anything valuable to add to the discussion; second, I fear being trampled on merely because someone misunderstands or disagrees with my posts. This seems to have happened here.

Michael Butera wrote (August 15, 2001):
[To Aryeh Oron] Actually Aryeh, the BRO website clears this up. They are not offering the first edition, but rather the second remastered Bachakademie edition of the sacred cantatas on 60 CDs. In addition, they have the 8 CD newly recorded secular cantatas. Like you, I enjoy Rilling's recordings. I have already ordered and received the 8 discs of secular cantatas and have been enjoying them immensely. I now have the other 60 discs on order.

Kirk McElhearn wrote (August 15, 2001):
[To John Thomas] There are not two cycles. The new discs are merely repackagings, in order, of the old recordings.

Kirk McElhearn wrote (August 15, 2001):
[To Donald Satz] I only have two of them, but I, too, was surprised. I am a bit less positive about some of the singing - it sounds a bit operatic. But musically it is very good.

Kirk McElhearn wrote (August 15, 2001):
[To Michael Butera] Don't worry if others disagree. You were totally right.

Kirk McElhearn wrote (August 15, 2001):
[To John Thomas] I think it is right, and normal, to share such information. That's part of what gives this list value.

Bob Sherman wrote (August 15, 2001):
[To Donald Satz] I very strongly recommend BWV 21. The finale is about the most exhilirating, soaring performance of anything I've heard anywhere. Rilling begins it with OVPP, then expands to chorus. The soloists are not well known but they sing as if this is the moment their entire lives have been building toward and the result is magnificent. As icing on the cake, the modern trumpets play with joyful power, brilliance, and incisiveness that valveless trumpets couldn't begin to approach.

The Richter performance of this work is also very fine, but a bit too brash. Rilling hits it just right.

Simon Vischer wrote (August 15, 2001):
First thank you very much Michael for making your point clear! I never thought that you want to attack me.

Second I have to make clear that I have nothing against anyone who tells us where to find things for a cheaper prize. I would expect this too. As I said I didn't know that Fnac.com sells it that cheap. That is good for all of us so we can get it for a cheaper prize.

But since I thought that mine was the cheapest I reduce it again to $799.00! (Remember that Fnac still sells it for about $992.00!) I promise you that I will make a very low shipping prize. If the shipping costs are too high (i.e. in the US) I could go down with the prize so that all of you - no matter where you live - have the chance to get "The Complete Works.." for a fair and decent prize!

I did say and I'm honest I don't want to make big money with this (and btw you don't have to be a capitalist when you sell a Bach-CD-Set..).


Hänssler/Rilling Cantatas

Stephen Quinn wrote (August 26, 2001):
For those on list who do not know, The Berkshire Record Outlet (http://www.broinc.com/ ) is selling The Rilling/Hasnsler edition of the Bach Cantatas. This is the 69 Cds that were part of the Complete Bach Edition issued by Hänssler a few years ago. While Amazon.com is selling these same discs for up to $15. each, Berkshire is charging $2.99 per disc. Each disc comes with booklet containing traslations, and the usual paraphenalia. If you want the whole set be prepared to engage in a good deal of button pushing as you cannot buy the cds as a set, but must purchase each one indiviually. I have purchased the whole set, and found Berkshire to be very prompt and reliable. I am not involved in any way with Bershire, Hänssler Record, or anyone else for that matter.

Charles Francis wrote (August 26, 2001):
[To Stephen Quinn] I take the liberty of forwarding the attached email to the Bach Cantatas group. Some ten years ago, I bought the 69 Rilling CDs at eight times the price quoted below, and have never regretted the decision!


The Christmas Oratorio/Secular cantata overlap

Francine Renee Hall wrote (October 12, 2001):
My first Rilling experience was with his "Hercules at the Crossroads" (BWV 213) on Nonesuch. I loved it so much but for so very long it never came out on CD. So I bought Gardiner's Christmas Oratorio (BWV 248) to 'fill in' for the secular gap. "Upon my wings you shall soar" has always been a big thrill for me. Later I picked up Rene Jacobs because he finally came out with the secular Hercules. I understand that Rilling has issued his secular cantatas now ri?


Broinc

Neil Mason [Musical Director Bach Society of Queensland, Brisbane, Australia] wrote (October 30, 2001):
This is my first posting to this list, but I have been enjoying being a lurker for some time.

Today I received a catalogue from Berkshire Record Outlet (broinc).

In it they have 68 different CDs of Bach Cantatas on the Hansler label conducted by Rilling, priced at $2.99 (US) each.

This seems very cheap, but frankly I can't afford all 68, but could afford a dozen or so.

I would welcome suggestions as to which would be the best dozen to get from the series.

Barry Murray wrote (October 30, 2001):
[To Neil Mason] Great to see another Queenslander on the list - I'm located in Cairns.Broinc have a wide range of CDs at cheap prices.Before buying from them, at least if you live outside the US, you must be careful of their shipping charges. Even surface mail (four to six weeks) can work out to be very expensive.

Kirk McElhearn wrote (October 30, 2001):
[To Neil Mason] You might want to wait a bit - Hänssler is rereleasing them in boxes of 12 CDs. I saw one here in France last week, but I don't remember if the price is advantageous.



Rilling – Bach Opera

Francine Renee Hall wrote (November 10, 2001:
Last night I listened to Hellmuth Rilling on Hänssler Classics conducting Bach's secular cantatas BWV 212, BWV 213 ("Peasant" and "Hercules at the Crossroads"). I haven't heard him since the 1970's when he was on the Nonesuch label. My first impression was that Rilling truly captured the 'operatic' qualities of these cantatas, with the soloists very carefully catering to the nuances in the words sung in recitative and aria form. Does his 'operatic' qualities (at least in my opinion) also cover his other cantatas? And it is quite good fun to know that Bach, in his "Peasant" Cantata has a great sense of humor. Sometimes Bach can be too full of gloom and doom, and it's nice to have his music smile once in a while! warmest wishes-- Francine

Donald Satz wrote (November 10, 2001):
[To Francine Renee Hall] Although I tend to prefer period instrument performances of the Cantatas, Rilling offers excellent interpretations which display an informed notion of historical practices. So the answer is 'YES'.



Hänssler Cantatas – new Edition

Kirk McElhearn wrote (December 12, 2001):
I just received a set of the rerelease version of the Hänssler cantatas. I had originally thought they were being rereleased in 10-CD sets, but that's only for the secular cantatas - the sacred cantatas come in three 20-CD sets. I don't know the price, but I believe it is pretty cheap, at least compared to the original prices.

My only regret is that they just repackaged the CDs in boxes, rather than making small boxes with the CDs in slip cases. As I approach the 900 club, I appreciate economies of size...


Dates of Rilling recordings

Kirk McElhearn wrote (December 29, 2001):
What are the beginning and end dates of the recordings in the Rilling series? I find 1972 as the earliest, and, perhaps, 1983 as the latest. Can anyone confirm?

Aryeh Oron wrote (December 29, 2001):
[To Kirk McElhearn] In the Introduction page of the Bach Cantatas Website:
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Intro.htm
you will be able to see that Rilling's cantata cycle was recorded from 1968 to 1985. For example, Cantata BWV 191, which is still under discussion in the BCML, was recorded as early as 1971. 3 pages list the recordings of this cycle:
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Performers/Rilling-Rec2.htm
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Performers/Rilling-Rec3.htm
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Performers/Rilling-Rec4.htm

Rilling had recorded some Bach Cantatas earlier, in the Mid 1960's, most of them for the German Cantate label. They are listed in the following pages:
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Performers/Rilling.htm
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Performers/Rilling-Rec6.htm

Enjoy and Happy New Bach Year,

Kirk McElhearn wrote (December 29, 2001):
[To Aryeh Oron] I did check the site, but missed that spot. I went straight to the Rilling section. I wasn't sure about the earliest ones, though, from 1968. There is one listed in 1970 as not being part of the Hänssler cycle.

In any case, I recently received the Hänssler set, and am enjoying it very much, even though I am not a fan of his style. I promise, Aryeh, that, now that I have three complete sets, I will try to contribute to the discussions. I promise, I promise, I promise... :-)



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Helmuth Rilling: Short Biography | Gächinger Kantorei Stuttgart | Frankfurter Kantorei | Bach-Collegium Stuttgart
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Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4 | Part 5 | Part 6 | Part 7 | Part 8
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